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How do I? Index Main Contents:

Welcome
Introducing hontreasurer.com
Online Manual
How Do I?
HELP! I'm Stuck!
TUTORIAL
The Forum
TO DO List

How Do I? Contents:

  • Choose Activity Names
  • Print Labels or Form Letters
  • I can't edit a Transaction Field
  • Import existing records
  • Does the order of letters in Label Fields matter?
  • Print Labels or email People who have paid for an Activity?
  • Produce Management Accounts on a Spreadsheet with numbers from hontreasurer.com?
  • Post Contra Entries?
  • Set up and email only user?

  • Submit Your Comments/Ideas




    Many new users face the problem of how many Activities to put into their new system. Extremes vary from one Activity to cover everything, which doesn't give you much analysis of what the Income and Expenditure was, to a different Activity for practically every transaction which goes in, which makes it very difficult to read reports or leaves you having to create huge numbers of Activity Groups to analyse anything.

    A good starting place, if such a thing exists, is the existing accounts or cashbooks. Except in larger organisations, these will show a number of lines (or columns) with just income or expenditure headings. If this is all that is required, simply create Activities for all the lines (or columns) and the system will more or less reproduce the existing. However, putting in a new system can be (or may be because) new and better information is required.

    The first extension to the simple layout above is when there are events which have both income and expenditure and you would like to see the profit. There are two ways of approaching this:

    1.Put both Income and Expenditure on the same Activity. The reports will then show the net income (expenditure) for the event.
    2.If you want to show both the income, expenditure and the profit for the event, create activities “event Income” and “event Expenditure” for income and expenditure respectively. Then create an Activity Group “event” which contains both these activities.

    The next level of sophistication is to record Activities at a fairly low level and use Activity Groups to produce summaries. This is typically the way that management accounts are produced for a committee (or board) which is not concerned with the detail. The chief difficulties with this are a) choosing an appropriate level for the Activities, b) choosing the Groups, and c) ensuring that every Activity appears in one, but only one, Activity Group. However, the beauty of hontreasurer.com is that this can be a dynamic process because Activity Groups can be changed at any time. Start by looking at the existing cashbook and then add activities for all the things which you wished you could separate. Then lay out the management accounts on one A4 page and create groups corresponding to each line. In large systems, Income can go on one A4 page and Expenditure on another. Now create an Activity Group for each line on the management report and add the relevant Activities to each group as required. Finally, check that all the activities are in one of the groups. Remember the difficult part is choosing and allocating the transactions to Activities. The easy part is producing reports which add these activities up in different ways.

    Even more sophisticated is analysing the transactions in multiple ways. This occurs when there are multiple events each of which having roughly the same types of expenditure. A good example is Health & Safety which will typically be a cost in every event. If you want to be able to produce the total Health & Safety expenditure across all events, then there must be a Health & Safety activity for each event. So the activities will look like “event - Health & Safety” and there will be one for each activity. Then, as well as the normal groups which make up the Income & Expenditure for each Event, there may be an Activity Group called Health & Safety which comprises all the Health & Safety Activities. Because this is a subsidiary analysis, it is important to check that all Health & Safety activities are included because it is difficulty to produce a cross-check for this type of subsidiary analysis. In addition to all that, the person entering the transactions has more work to do in identifying the Activity to post to – and more activities in the list to choose from. The advantage is that the analysis is automatic.

    The totals for Activity Groups are easily removed to a spreadsheet with the Copy/Paste function. hontreasurer.com does not attempt to reinvent the extraordinary presentation facilities available in spreadsheets. The basic system of pasting the data from Activity Groups (or Activities or Accounting Categories or Contacts) into a “data” sheet on a spreadsheet and then using the “lookup” functions to transfer these numbers onto a “presentation“ sheet is one of the most powerful features of hontreasurer.com. See also How to Produce Management Accounts.